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Mystique escribió:For all my Spanish friends: I have good news \:D/

Today i had talk with our webmaster "Biggest" :bulla: and we will rebuild our website!!
We will have all informations here in two languages!!

Czech and English

Isn't it nice? 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:

So give oure website to your favourites =D>
It will coming soon.... I hope :lol: :lol:


for farrucu: your registration will be done ASAP 8)
Simply great... greetings for BIGGEST too...

Mystique*... any info about becoming a FWD V6 into a 4WD V6? All the 4X4 pieces must engage in both cars, Turbo and V6 but, what about the 4X4 testing lamp? What about the dissasembly posivility whith the 19 fuse? All these more-less electronical things... how did you resolve these problems? What about the engine mounts for the F28 gearbox, did yoy change them to put it in order on F25?

Sorry about too many questions but, I have been since I bought my car looking for compatibilities in the 4X4 system and my car...

Thank you.

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alumnoeuiti_ss escribió: Mystique*... any info about becoming a FWD V6 into a 4WD V6? All the 4X4 pieces must engage in both cars, Turbo and V6 but, what about the 4X4 testing lamp? What about the dissasembly posivility whith the 19 fuse? All these more-less electronical things... how did you resolve these problems? What about the engine mounts for the F28 gearbox, did yoy change them to put it in order on F25?

Sorry about too many questions but, I have been since I bought my car looking for compatibilities in the 4X4 system and my car...

Thank you.

Greetings.

So, at first i have to tell you, that this modification is not done by me :(
This does the first owner of my car, he is coming form Switzerland, i don't know him but i know why he sell it.

Becouse of this modification :sad:

It's done really good and preciously but it havn't expected efect.

4WD is really good thing in car, but it's also 100KG over :(
and with this combination you lose the power of engine.

I think its better to have F28 then 4WD becouse the first 2 grades are short and the car is going VERY FAST on the crossroad :lol: :lol: and the 6 grade is very economic, you can go 130km/H on 3000rpm and your actual usage of petrol is around 6,0l/KM :razz:

But becouse of bigger weight of car your max speed is around 240 km/h with 5,500rpm and the engine don't want go more :(
(i think that my problem is also that i haven't catalyst and i'm loosing torque)

IMHO without 4WD and only with F28 could be my speed around 260km/h :lol: :lol:

About implementing F28, yes you have to have distance piece between engine and gearbox :)

And now the electronic part of 4WD 8) I'm not a good mechanic, but i now one thing. There is not 19 fuse, there is only relay which can swith 4x4 to TC and back and i can do it when i'm going :lol: :lol:

I will take some detail pictures of it and maybe when we meet once, you can try to drive it 8) 8) :lol:
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So... the car doesn´t disassembly the 4WD automatically? Mmm... you use the TC Switcher to do that semi-automatically...?

One thing that I think you need in the car, a lighter flywheel. The flywheel in the V6 is around 15kg, with one of 9,5kg you will feel an amazing aceleration surely.

The F28... real good gearbox, you can have a shorter gears first and if you want, you can go driving cheap in the 6th, like you say, like I have thougt for many time.

Here... we know some MOD's to do to a V6, but they are BIG MOD's. If you change the inlet manifold and put the Vectra B's one, you will feel that the car goes better in low RPM's... the FlyWheel... the F28... Big-job's as you can see and here, one F28 gearbox may reach to 1200€... what about the prices there in these big 2nd hand things? What I'm looking for...: Becoming the 2.5 V6 into a 3.0 V6 Twin Turbo... but need many pieces and an X30XE engine... a pair of KKK K16/K04 or T3/T25 Garret or Holser/Vortech similars turbos... and a Audi RS4 Motronic 7.1 ECU, a F28 gearbox, 6 new red injectors if you want to reach to more les 350-400hp, new pumps... (oil, fuel, water), new fuel mamager... and more. Really big-expensive job for me right now.

Thank you Mystique, waitting for any photo/technical drawing about the engine mounts of your car or what you think that would be usefull for us...

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alumnoeuiti_ss escribió:So... the car doesn´t disassembly the 4WD automatically? Mmm... you use the TC Switcher to do that semi-automatically...?

One thing that I think you need in the car, a lighter flywheel. The flywheel in the V6 is around 15kg, with one of 9,5kg you will feel an amazing aceleration surely.


Thank you Mystique, waitting for any photo/technical drawing about the engine mounts of your car or what you think that would be usefull for us...

Greetings.
add 4WD: yes a can (or have to :wink: ) switch it manually. When i start my engine a have defalut switched to TC and when i want 4WD a re-switch :) I think it's better becouse of power of engine. 4WD=more power which have to engine give for driving :sad:

add flywheel: yes i heard about it, but same problem as you, money :(

and add 3.0 engine: you are so crazy as some of ours members, but i like it 8) 8) 8) :lol: :lol:
One member of our club have 3.0 MV6 engine from Opel Omega in Calibra and i can tell you one think: it's REALLY BRUTAL power for Calibra!!! :supz: :sisi: I drive it once and i want it.

But what does twin turbo in Calibra.....
it's really better don't think about it :lol: :lol: :lol:
It have to be massacre :lol:

btw: i'm translating first journal on our web :)
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Yes... I've seen an 3.0 V6 calibra in your web-page but no way to see the photos, I can´t find it and no way to know how to do it... It must be quite easy to do this, becoming the calibra in 3.0 V6 because the engines are the same excepting the 3 litres in one and 2.5 in the other. If you can link any photo or tell me where they are...

I have just recieve the first tranlation, you want to show it here or in an other place? I will upload it and them Tropic will upload it finally to the web-page.

Thank You!!!

All the things you can explain about your 4X4 system will be wellcome... I'm quite curious about any situation how will it work... for example, you say that you can switch it when you want, isn't it? So... you start your engine and 4X4 is dissabled? Another one: You have conected your 4X4 and you have a huge breaking... it won´t disssasembly automatically? Posibility of "crunch" the transferbox? Serial transferbox or Torsen one?

Thank You again!!!

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Bienvenu au club Espagnol Mystique (WELCOME) :wink:
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Buenos dias Amigos 8)

Here is present for you from Czech Calibra Club:

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I have 2 kinds of this labels, white and silver and it's 48 pieces.

to marc: we have to deal how can i send it to you :)
---> Opel Calibra 2.5 V6 (c25xe) <---

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i want a label like this :D
sorry my poor english
marc mantenme informado 8)
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Are the labels a present?? 0€?

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD



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Pacheking escribió:i want a label like this :D
sorry my poor english
marc mantenme informado 8)

hay un hilo para eso.



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alumnoeuiti_ss escribió:Yes... I've seen an 3.0 V6 calibra in your web-page but no way to see the photos, I can´t find it and no way to know how to do it... It must be quite easy to do this, becoming the calibra in 3.0 V6 because the engines are the same ......

All the things you can explain about your 4X4 system will be wellcome... I'm quite curious about any situation how will it work... for example, you say that you can switch it when you want, isn't it? So... you start your engine and 4X4 is dissabled? Another one: You have conected your 4X4 and you have a huge breaking... it won´t disssasembly automatically? Posibility of "crunch" the transferbox? Serial transferbox or Torsen one?

Thank You again!!!

Greetings.
add 3.0 V6: yes, the engines are the same and so i think that it was easy :)
on the photos you will not see anything :)

add translation: we will have our pages multi-language :) CZ and EN so all things you will find there.

add 4x4: yes, when i start my engine the 4x4 is dissabled and if i want to have it, i will re-switched from TC to 4x4. I couldn't stop the engine, i can do it when i'm driving.
I think that is not connected with a brakes as Calibra Turbo 4x4, this is the problem, but i don't know it well :( I want the check all this things next year spring, becouse of repair when i will need it :)
But it's better to see it, so you are welcome here for a vacation :D
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Pacheking escribió:i want a label like this :D
sorry my poor english
marc mantenme informado 8)
I want a White Label too, as Pacheking :jaja:

On the rocks please!! :jaja: :jaja:
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Hi there!

I´m glad to be back after few days off.

Thanks to Mystique for including my profile on the club member list :D

So you live right in Praha... Definetely, we'll have to arrange a GTG one of these weekends. :vamp:

I remember seeing an ad of a 4x4 V6 when I was seeking for my cali. It used to be in Nürnberg, IIRC. So not too far away from CZ.

Regarding 4x4 on a V6: Of what you´re saying, I understand you still keep the TC. I find TC fairly useless on a FWD. Provided you drive on four wheels, the TC body becomes such a dumb dead-weight device. Furthermore, it adds a struggle point just in front of the intake manifold. I would consider getting rid of the TC body.

When thinking of tuning a V6, I would focus on two directions as a first level cheap-mods:

1.- Enlighting the flywheel: This would bring up stronger reactions to the right foot, and partially kill the gap when revving up.

2.- Fitting a cold air induction inlet. Top power won´t be pushed too high, but torque at lower revs will increase, exactly where C25XE lacks temperament.

I estimate that this two combined unexpensive mods will end up on a good capacity for picking up.

Honestly, I think this is the better you can do to get the most of a standard V6. Next step would be, of course, fitting a F28 gearbox, provided that you worked out all the economical and tecnical problems that will arise. Personally, I´m not even considering as "tuning" other dramatically expensive mods, as fitting a MV6 engine. My aim is: "keep what you have, but get the better of it".

Remapping the injection timings, if done propperly, can help a little bit. Swapping the intake manifold can help as well, but the cost will exceed the benefit you´ll get from it. I would try first tuning up to get the best of what you already have by identifying and killing the more restrictive points.



2.- Improving breathing.
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farrucu escribió:Hi there!

So you live right in Praha... Definetely, we'll have to arrange a GTG one of these weekends. :vamp:



Regarding 4x4 on a V6: Of what you´re saying, I understand you still keep the TC. I find TC fairly useless on a FWD. Provided you drive on four wheels, the TC body becomes such a dumb dead-weight device. Furthermore, it adds a struggle point just in front of the intake manifold. I would consider getting rid of the TC body.

When thinking of tuning a V6, I would focus on two directions as a first level cheap-mods:

1.- Enlighting the flywheel: This would bring up stronger reactions to the right foot, and partially kill the gap when revving up.

2.- Fitting a cold air induction inlet. Top power won´t be pushed too high, but torque at lower revs will increase, exactly where C25XE lacks temperament.

So, i'm back again. I had a long christmas holiday 8)

When you plan your way to Praha? 8)
I will tell it to my frinds and we can do "a little Calibra meeting" :wink: :D

About your questions, i will translate it to our "Calibra mechanic" and write you an answer ASAP becouse i don't know all these things. I'm not as good as i want to be :? :D

Only one thing, which i spoke with our mechanic was the FLYWHEEL.
We think that is not so good idea becouse of "rpm" of engine.
Light flywheel can do the mess, when you will go down with speed.
If you will want to decrease the weight of flywheel you have to do it with care and i think that it"s better the have standart flywheel.
Maybe we are wrong, maybe someone from you already have this "tunning" in c25xe engine, so i would like to have some real PRACTICAL 8) :D information.

Thanks a lot boys :wink:
---> Opel Calibra 2.5 V6 (c25xe) <---

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One of the last things we have thought recently is that the flywheel is a delicate thing... delicate enough to put any flywheel you can see there for sale whithout a warranty. The solution we thought is this: 9,5kg flywheel from Opel Calibra Turbo, complete Clutch from Opel calibra Turbo too and the F28 Gearbox. All these things must work OK because they're serial parts of another car, another calibra. We think that all these things are good material to use in the C25XE engine tuning starting...

In a short time I will have translated the braking liquid paper that you sent me, maybe this night or tomorrow it will go UP.

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Mystique escribió:So, i'm back again. I had a long christmas holiday 8)
Hope you enjoyed them, mate! ;)
Mystique escribió:When you plan your way to Praha? 8)
I will tell it to my frinds and we can do "a little Calibra meeting" :wink: :D
I wasn´t actually planing it, but I´m open to discuss about it... :D

Cool. Just checked my calendar. Unfortunately, I must work most weekends, but I have a nice weekend off (11, 12, 13 February). Nothing planned yet. However, a visit to a friend in Berlin around the date is outstanding. I´ll arrange both things. Let´s keep this in mind, so we speak about it later.

Anyway, I love Praha :mola: :mola: :mola:

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Mystique escribió:About your questions, i will translate it to our "Calibra mechanic" and write you an answer ASAP becouse i don't know all these things. I'm not as good as i want to be :? :D
Neither am I. So you have a "Calibra mechanic"? :lol: Good point to start :pulgar: I have only some ideas of what we can make for improvement. Nothing to do with heavy mods from scratch.
Mystique escribió:Only one thing, which i spoke with our mechanic was the FLYWHEEL.
We think that is not so good idea becouse of "rpm" of engine.
Light flywheel can do the mess, when you will go down with speed.
Keep it simple:

Think of a V6 as a one-and-a-half 1.6 engine (6-cylinder, each same size as in a 1.6 litre 4-cylinder). This means one "1.6 stroke" every 120º against one "2.0 stroke" every 180º on any other Calibra.

This engine can only be inherently much smoother than any other 2.0 4-cylinder Calibra, which eliminates the need of a heavy flywheel. :vamp:
Mystique escribió:If you will want to decrease the weight of flywheel you have to do it with care and i think that it"s better the have standart flywheel.
You´re quite right, that´s dangerous... The other choice is buying a specific-designed light flywheel from Courtenay or from Imotec.
Mystique escribió:Maybe we are wrong, maybe someone from you already have this "tunning" in c25xe engine, so i would like to have some real PRACTICAL 8) :D information.
I wish I could help you, but nobody that I know has tried this mods on a V6. What I read on the matter from UK people, they said the mod is worth. Only thing I can say is: I thinked very carefully about consequences of replacing the flywheel, and I am very commited to do it. I found good reasons for doing it, but, as far as my knowledge lasts, no fairly true reasons NOT to do it.

Cheers!
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farrucu escribió:
Mystique escribió:When you plan your way to Praha? 8)
I will tell it to my frinds and we can do "a little Calibra meeting" :wink: :D
I wasn´t actually planing it, but I´m open to discuss about it... :D

Cool. Just checked my calendar. Unfortunately, I must work most weekends, but I have a nice weekend off (11, 12, 13 February). Nothing planned yet. However, a visit to a friend in Berlin around the date is outstanding. I´ll arrange both things. Let´s keep this in mind, so we speak about it later.

I will answer you at this time only on this 8) 8) :wink:

I booked up this date and i will wait for your confirmation :wink: :)
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I had bad day today boys, someone gut my Calibra :cry:


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:shock: Damn!

All my encourages, Mystique... Hope you get it easily fixed...

It´s been lately quite a few robberies in our team´s cars as well.

The stereo has gone :evil: fuckers...

At least could be worst... The car still sits there!

We feel with you. Easy, mate! :pulgar:
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